Black Women Who Say Black Men Are Systemically Oppressing Them Are Liars

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Yesterday I wasted quite a few hours on Twitter engaging with a bunch of delusional Black women who honestly believe that Black men are systemically oppressing Black women.  Read that again….SYSTEMICALLY OPPRESSING Black women.  This whole discussion started as a result of a few back & forths between rapper Talib Kweli & myself in regards to a tweet he posted about Black men.

Side Note:  Twitter debates are won by the person with the most followers regardless of what is being said.  That’s it.

Anyways, if you know anything about Talib Kweli outside of him being a professional rapper, he is also known for being a social justice activist.  So when I read his tweet saying “Black men have and continue to oppress black women.  Not just in activism either.  If you don’t see it, u do it.”, I asked him for clarification to that statement.  You see when I hear an activist use the word “oppression”, I immediately think about systemic oppression.  So I tweeted to him the following:

That tweet sent a few dozen trolls my way.

To make a long story long, Black women were coming out of the woodwork to tell me that Black men are abusive, misogynistic, we prefer non-Black women, we practice patriarchy, it’s our fault we make more money than Black women, we are trying to silence Black women…and on & on & on & on.  My notifications were blowing up with mostly Black women basically telling me nothing more than how much they despise Black men.  That’s it.  Not one of them could give me a solid concrete answer to my tweet explaining exactly what type of system have Black men set up to exclude Black women from participation in society.  Not one of them.  Instead, most of these Black women went the ole “All Lives Matter” route, meaning, I’m addressing a tweet Talib Kweli made specifically in reference to BLACK MEN oppressing Black women & in response I got a bunch of Black women purposely choosing to ignore the direct statement about Black men.  They decided to lump Black men into the ALL MEN category in order to explain women being oppressed.  But Talib Kweli’s tweet wasn’t in reference to ALL MEN.  He made his statement about BLACK MEN.  So why couldn’t these women who chose to engage me respond to my tweet about BLACK MEN somehow systemically oppressing Black women?  Why?  Because it doesn’t exist.  That’s why.

Side Note:  After awhile Talib gave a vague ass response as to what he meant by oppression.  His response was in reference to oppression meaning “prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control”.  Basically abuse.  But like I mentioned earlier, outside of rapping he’s mostly known for speaking about SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION, yet I’m supposed to magically interpret his tweets to subject matter outside of what he constantly tweets about.  Hell, just getting him to clarify the context of the word oppression was a struggle.  But I digress.

I’m just going to address some of the tweets I received from some Black women in response to my questioning of Talib Kweli.  All of these tweets I’m about to show you stemmed from me asking specifically about Black men SYSTEMICALLY OPPRESSING Black women.

“Every 19 hours a Black woman dies at the hand of an intimate partner in the US.  More than police.”@FeministaJones

Feminista Jones, that’s an absolute tragedy & I’m glad you are doing what you are capable of doing in order to make people aware of this tragedy.  But please explain to me how this relates to systemic oppression.  How are Black men preventing Black women from participating in society?  Have Black men collectively set up a system to prevent abused Black women from seeking outside help from law enforcement or anybody else?  Explain how this tweet related to my question about systemic oppression.  Doubt I’ll be getting a response.

“@LightSkinHero benefitting from male privilege.  That’s the main one.  The most broad.  Use that and your imagination to discover examples.”@TalibahYa

I find it funny that your Twitter handle just happens to have Talib’s name in it.  But anyways.  Do males benefit from male privilege?  Of course.  Nobody is disputing that.  But explain to me what systems have Black men set up with the sole intent of legally excluding Black women from participating in society?  Me having & benefitting from male privilege does not mean I’m capable of setting up a system to prevent a Black women from doing anything.  If you want to be mad that I’m a male & I have male privilege, fine be mad.  But don’t pretend like Black men are just out here creating laws & devising systems to exclude Black women.  It’s not happening.

“@LightSkinHero just b/c you haven’t created the rules doesn’t mean you don’t have your own ways of oppressing Black women.”@TalibahYa

Once again, what “ways of oppressing Black women” have Black men created that can legally prevent Black women from participation in society?  There are none.  You are confusing the terms.  I’m speaking specifically about systemic oppression & you are aimlessly going on about oppression in terms of abuse.  Nobody argued against SOME Black men (AND SOME BLACK WOMEN) being abusive.  My whole discussion was about SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION.  The development of actual systems backed by law & society to exclude groups of people from various aspects of life.  How in the world did that fly over your head considering I tweeted out exactly what the hell I was talking about to you numerous times?

“@LightSkinHero Since when is patriarchy, sexism and misogyny NOT systemic?…”@bonnniehale

This was probably the one tweet that caused me to get flooded by a bunch of delusional Black women.  @bonnniehale, provide for me just ONE instance of Black men using patriarchy, sexism & misogyny to implement some type of system designed to exclude Black women from various aspects of society.  Just one.  Can Black men be sexist & misogynist?  Sure.  Can Black men practice patriarchy?  Sure.  Have Black men purposely established a system by way of law (or just even culture for that matter) to prevent Black women from trying to be all they can be in life?  HELL NO.  So quit with the foolishness.

“@LightSkinHero Systemic is that we are taught from birth that we are ugly, our hair is “bad” by this culture.”@lotyslove

Black culture didn’t teach Black people to view Black women as ugly or having bad hair.  White culture did.  Show me how Black men are applying this frame of mind to prevent Black women from excelling in life.

“@LightSkinHero Systemic in that Black males are taught that disrespecting their counterpart (turn on the radio) is acceptable.”@lotyslove

Show me how Black men being disrespectful to Black women is preventing Black women from excelling in life.

“@LightSkinHero Systemic as in not seeing any Black faces in textbooks, coloring books & cartoons growing up.”@lotyslove

Show me the Black men using this to prevent Black women from excelling in life.

“@LightSkinHero Look at the Black men fawning over light skin & non kinky hair, deliberately marrying non black women, having non black children.”@lotyslove

Show me how Black men are using this to prevent Black women from excelling in life.

“@LightSkinHero I blame this culture for perpetuating self-hatred.  No one said shit about BLAMING black men.”@lotyslove

But my whole conversation was about Talib Kweli’s tweet in regards to Black men, which is how you ended up putting my name in your tweets.

“@LightSkinHero Black me don’t prevent me from doing shit in the US.  I get jobs before they do.  Not a concern of mine.”@lotyslove

Then why in the fuck are you complaining on a topic about whether or not Black men are systemically oppressing Black women?  You’re just here to complain about Black men period probably because a Black man or two fucked you over in the past.  Get over it.  Move on.

In summary…

I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that some Black women absolutely despise Black men just because we are men.  They try to use this “male privilege” argument in reference to Black men as if we had a say in how society chooses to treat Black women.  The reality is, most of these Black women are walking around with emotional baggage from previous dealings with dusty ass niggas.  So now every Black man these Black women encounter that do not 100% subscribe to their way of thinking is somehow trying to oppress them.  If you want to address the issue of some Black men being abusive to Black women, then address it.  You have every right to.  I don’t know of one Black man who is trying to silence Black women from speaking up about that issue.  I’m most certainly not.  Matter of fact, I actively look for strong Black female voices to contribute to this site to address these issues since I’m under the belief that, who is better qualified to talk about the struggles Black women go through…Black men or Black women?

When Black women start tossing out bullshit excuses to support the lie that Black men are systemically oppressing Black women, now we’ve crossed into the territory of just outright stupidity.  There isn’t one system in place established by Black men that can legally exclude Black women from participating or excelling in life.  Not one.  If you have a problem with how society goes about placing Black men & women on the totem pole of power, then address the issue of white supremacy which affects ALL BLACK PEOPLE regardless of gender or sexual orientation.  Sure we have our own internal issues amongst Black men & women, but don’t sit up here & try to pretend like Black men collectively have a hand in saying what Black women can or can’t do with their lives.  If you support that flawed thinking, you are just making up shit just for the sake of making shit up just so you can get attention.

I’ll ask my question one more time:

Somebody provide me just ONE example of Black men establishing a system backed by laws & society designed to purposely exclude Black women from participating or excelling in life.  Just give me one example.

Light skin dude with an opinion
  • Flee

    “Black culture didn’t teach Black people to view Black women as ugly or
    having bad hair. White culture did…”

    Agreed, but we participate in the practice of colorism, black men in positions of power and choosing not to change that narrative when it comes to black features. Examples, black males with power and influence in the media/entertainment industry.

    “Show me how Black men being disrespectful to Black women is preventing Black
    women from excelling in life.”

    Rap culture- i.e. low standards, low self-esteem, and priorities in shallow/self-destructive/vapid BS. This creates the “bastard baby makers” you
    speak of. I know modern society does want to hear this, but by nature women
    often follow the man’s lead. Where are you leading us?

    This mentality is also how 1 trillion dollars worth of our power being given to the highest tier of systematic oppression (white people).

    “@bonnniehale, provide for me just ONE instance of Black men using
    patriarchy, sexism & misogyny to implement some type of system designed to
    exclude Black women from various aspects of society…”

    Seriously?! One word…Africa (past and present). We were the first people after all.
    If you know your history this need no further explanation needed. Examples
    galore! Nothing changed once some of us where kidnapped and brought to the US.

    • Let’s Do The Right Thing

      Hey idiot, there’s no such thing as ‘Black culture’. Black women are DBR and so are Black men. In fact, the so called Black community is DBR. But since we are all we’ve got. we have to make ourselves into better people. It starts with one person at a time. Each person should strive to have the best character possible. A good character gravitates toward doing the right thing. If enough people have good character, it will manifest itself in the community. We must stop romanticizing about a virtuous past that never existed. We must stop fantasizing about great African civilizations, that no one can find any evidence of ever existing. It starts right here, right now. Accept the reality of your present condition, and get about the business of improving your lot. Otherwise, a hundred years from now, we will still be whining the same nonsense, and our offspring will be in the same predicament as we are, if not worse.

  • Sammy Girl

    “Every 19 hours a Black woman dies at the hand of an intimate partner in the US. More than police.” — @FeministaJones

    Feminista Jones, that’s an absolute tragedy & I’m glad you are doing what you are capable of doing in order to make people aware of this tragedy. But please explain to me how this relates to systemic oppression. How are Black men preventing Black women from participating in society?

    Um… by Killing them?
    “Have Black men collectively set up a system to prevent abused Black women from seeking outside help from law enforcement or anybody else?”

    Yes, they try to shame abused black women from calling the cops and guilt them into silence. http://www.onyxtruth.com/2015/10/07/trent-witsaman/
    They know womens instinct is usually to protect the people they love (male or female) so they use black womens own protective instinct demanding we put their wants (they want to stay out of jail) over our needs (our need to stay alive and not get lumped up)

    “Explain how this tweet related to my question about systemic oppression. Doubt I’ll be getting a response.”

    Seems like you want someone to tell you black men have made laws to oppress black women and if they can’t tell you this then oppression does not exist.

    Talib Kwali said “oppression” and oppression comes in many different forms, not just systematic oppression. There are no laws in the book that says white people cannot give black men jobs, or that white police officers MUST harrass black men, so do these forms of oppression not exist? So whites can use this same argument against black men.

    Yet if it’s not “systematic oppression” then black women being oppressed by black men doesn’t exist? All us black women need to go sit in the corner somewhere and just except the various forms of abuse we get from black men and not discuss it?
    Abuse comes in many different forms FYI. There’s physical abuse which @FeministaJones was likely referring to. There’s mental/psychological abuse, emotional abuse, child abuse, intimidations, social ostriization, many other forms of abuse but those are the first ones to pop into my head.

    Yet you ignore all of that and want to ask about “sysrtematic oppression”. Okay, since you want to play that game in what ways are white people systematically oppressing black people today? Since there is no systematic oppression, oppression doesn’t exist, right?

    • Gil

      So you mean to tell me that there is an organized system in place ran by black men designed to purposely go out & kill black women every 19 hours? Then there is also a system designed & ran by black men to purposefully shame black women from reporting their abuse? Really…

      As far as systemic oppression inflicted upon ALL black people for the last 300 years or more…if I really have to explain that aspect to you…you are a lost cause.

      • Sammy Girl

        Oh, also about the every 19 hours..you do realize that’s just a statistical representation of the reality of violence against black women right? Its not like black men are actually waiting 19 hours in between killing black women. Black women are not dying every 19 hours exactly, they just put it like that to show the severity and frequency of black womens deaths at the hands of black men.

        I will assume you already knew that and your question of “So you mean to tell me that there is an organized system in place ran by black men designed to purposely go out & kill black women every 19 hours?” is just an example of your intellectual dishonesty and that you dont actually believe black women are dying exactly 19 hours from each other…

        • Gil

          Once again, black men killing black women is not a system.

          It’s violence committed by these individuals on their own accord.

          • Sammy Girl

            Thats right, black men killing black women is not a system. Thats ehy Talib Kwali and all the other people you were arguing with didnt say anything about systems. YOU are the only one trying to force “systems” in to this conversation. Furthermlre, the only system you acknowledge is legal systems, not even social systems which black men are in control.of in the black community and which they definately use to oppress black women.

            Your denial of this fact is irrelavent. Just like a white person telling me racism doesnt exist today would like wise be completely irrelevant.

            Black men have a long way to go where they think they have a right to tell black women (or men) whether they are oppressing black women or not.

            Just remember, we not ASKING black men if they oppress us, we TELLING YOU whats going on.

            • Gil

              There is no organized system of black men trying to oppress black women.

              It’s just a bunch of random dudes who dislike black women for whatever reason…some take it as far as abusing black women unfortunately. But there is no system.

              As per Talib’s initial comments, feel free to reread what I wrote for a better understanding of why I introduced the word “system” in the 1st place.

  • Gil

    That’s not a system. A system is an actual organized effort of sorts to get something done.

    You’re describing a bunch of dudes acting out in their feels online.

    • Sammy Girl

      Question, is there not SOCIAL SYSTEMS? Educational Systems? Gender dynamics? Marital info structures?

      Once again is the only kind of oppression whites have metted to blacks in the form of legal systems?

      You know you are backed into a corner and cant answer yes without making yourself and the black civil rights of the past 40 years a hypocrisy.

      And that’s exactly what you tried to do to Talib Kwali’s argument. Except you transformed what he said to fit your own narrow narrative. You redefined his original statement then tried to prove that your redefination js false. WTF?

      You the only one talking about Legal systems. People did show you multiple examples of SOCIAL SYSTEMS where black men continue to use shame, intimidation and violence to control black women and force us into submission to their desires.

      Yet for whatever reason you wont accept Social systems not examples of traditional patriarchial systems that have always focused on supressing women.

      Find me where systematic oppression only means LEGAL SYSTEMS.

      Here’s a list of various systems:
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_types_of_systems_theory

      So systematic oppression is NOT just creating laws to oppress people. Systematic oppression can in fact include and does include SOCIAL SYSTEMS.

      On Youtube there is a system of oppression. The black male vloggers systematically oppress black female vloggers by sending their trolls to down vote theor video or try to run anyone off of youtube who disagrees with them.

      They even do it to other black male youtubers who seem to agree with black women.

      AH! Isnt what you are doing to Talib Kwali evidence of systematic oppression? You took what he said, completely changed it speaking for him saying THIS is what he really meant then try to debunk an argument he didnt even make!

      Rather then taking what he actually said and discussing his actual point you completely dismiss kt, add your own words, then prove yourself wrong claiming that you are proving him wrong.

      And im sure there would be many black men who would back you up and use that foolishness to attack and surpress Talib Kwali’s message, simply because his opinion negates their own.

      Well i am going to negate your opinion. You are nkt a black woman and you have NO idea what we have to go through with black men. So how dare you tell me that black men are not oppressing me? Because you are a black man (I assume) I won’t curse you out but you are about as valid as white racist claiming whites are not racist against blacks.

      • Gil

        A bunch of dudes crying online about how they hate black women is not a system.

        It’s just a bunch of dudes with mommy issues who have found a platform to amplify there hate for their mommies.

        • Sammy Girl

          A bunch? Go on youtube right now and type in “hate black women” or “black independant women” or “black single moms” or anything of the sort and see how many videos come up.
          Do the same on twitter, facebook, instagram, or whatever social network is pumping these days.

          Then looks up misogynistic rap lyrics, then look up all the negative things black male celebrites have had to say about black women. Some good names to look up: Wesley Snipes, Lil Wayne, Dennis Rodman, Tiger Woods, Chris Rock, Ice T and the list goes on and on and on.

          Go on Amazon and look up books about black women and youll likely find books with the same kind of anti-black woman bullshit coming from there.

          Find me some popular black magazines or rap magazines and there likely plenty of misogyny there too.

          Honey, dont give me that “its only a few brothers with mommy issues”.

          A few million maybe. These men have lost their ever loving minds.

          Its okay we are going to help them wake up and find their minds. What problem do YOU have with that?

          • Gil

            I for one don’t know black men like the ones you are describing. Also in regards to all the black men in America, most are not the way you think.

            Secondly, where did I say I had a problem with you waking these men up? If you feel that strongly about the issue…handle your biz.

            • Sammy Girl

              So you believe MOST have to be that way for there to be a problem?

              Most white people didnt own slaves. So once again black people have no argument against the white race because of it?

              Oh, you dont see this hatred against black women? Okay, well i gave you some names and places where you can go and see.

              Look, you are on the wrong side of the argument. You should have realized that because you sound EXACTLY like white people who are constantly denying their white privalidge.

              “Well i dont see it! I dont see all this racism!” whh the hell would a white person see hatred against blacks on a daily basis? Why would a black man see hatred against black women on a daily basis. You are nkt a black woman! So black men are not bringing their bullshit to you because you are not who they are prehudice against (a lot of these black men hate other black men too, but they show their hatred for fellow black men in other ways)

              Just like I dont see animal abuse everyday, but if a cow turned around telling me that us humans oppress it am i suppose to tell it “No, it’s lying?”

              • Gil

                where did I say I don’t see the hatred towards black women? I know it exists. I wrote about it about 2 weeks or so ago.

                I’m telling you, even tho there is hate…there is NO system in place teaching this hatred. Most black men do not teach their boys to grow up to hate black women or abuse them.

                How much energy do you put into actually going after the people who declare they hate and/or abuse you (black women) you on social media?

                • Sammy Girl

                  Well i say there is a system in place and i see the system.

                  You, a black man, say you dont see any “system” of oppression against black women.

                  Thats fine you dont have to see it. We just going to jump right over you and keep fighting what I, other black women, Talib Kwali, Blackspeech, and all the other black men and women who see it, see.

                  You can keep that blind fold on because this aint going to be pretty.

                  Sorry, but once again what you see or dont see( what you accept or dont accept) is completely irrelevant.

                  • V3

                    There’s no system in place. Cut the shit. How you FEEL doesn’t matter. No facts or data back it up. Deal with it.

                • Sammy Girl

                  Also why are you not approving some of my comments yet STILL responding to them.

                  Umm, umm, umm. More suppression coming from a black man. Lol. He dont want people to see my arguments but put up his own.

                  • Gil

                    I’ve approved all of your comments. Thanks.

      • Gil

        No it’s not a social system either. The vast majority of black men are not teaching young boys to grow up to abuse black women or anybody.

        • Sammy Girl

          Yes, it is a social system. Black men teach black boys to hate black women using their black male supremacy doctrines.
          You can find these doctrines in rap music thats pumped over the maistream radio everyday, in movies like “baby boy”, on the internet, in those hotep books like those of Umar Johnson and Professor Valentine. In magazines and all aspects of black male culture.

          Black men spread their anti-black women philosopies many different ways. And those spreading those philosophies are not presented as dummies with mommy issues. Dr. unar Johnson, Professor Valentine, Tyriq Nasheed. They are the patriarchs of the black community. The facilitators of the social system that oppressed black women.

          • Gil

            All black men do not do that.

            I’m raising 2 boys of my own now. I’m walking talking proof of what I say.

            All black men are not the way you think. There are a lot who are, but they do not make up the majority of us.

            • Sammy Girl

              Once again who told you it has ro be ALL before we start discussing this problem?

              All black men have not attacked me. Good for those that aint. Im going to talk about those ones who do. If thats not YOU why are you getting your feelings hurt?

              Why when Talib Kwali, who is a black man, talks about black men oppressing black women why did you feel the need to try to change his argument and try to cancel it?

              I dont care ALL aint doing it. Stop trying to protect your image as a black man. What about the black girls out there? They dont matter? We gotta just put up with black mens abuse. Why?

              Man FOH! Too many black men sit on their ass not doing anything when they see black women being attacked but when black women or men finally start to call them on their bullshit they want to act all defensive.

              All black men aint sitting there defending black women either or raising their sons properly. Thats exactly why black women start to protect each other and ourselves.

              Once again what is your problem with that?

              • Gil

                So I take it you don’t actually spend much time confronting these black men that are actually out there doing the things you say they are doing.

                I guess it’s easier to argue with the guy who isn’t like those black men b/c I simply don’t believe most black men are the way you describe. Nor do I believe this mentality you keep perpetuating is systemic in any fashion.

                But hey…let it out I suppose. 👍🏽

                • Sammy Girl

                  How do you know what i do or dont do? There you go talking for people again, just like you tried to do with Talib. So when you cant argue a fact, you just try to change the entire argument into something you can argue.

                  Not only am i famous for checking black men in real life but ive written a 5 book series of books on this subject.

                  So you can tuck all that character attacks you trying on me right where the sun dont shine. I literally wrote the book on this shit. Lol

                  • Gil

                    So do you actually do anything to challenge these black men you claim are running rampant?

                    • Sammy Girl

                      What you think i wrote 5 books for? I completely crush most of their major arguments (against black women).

                    • Gil

                      Obviously your efforts in crushing them are failing hence they are still making a name, building a bigger following, & making money.

                      Meanwhile…we have you.

                  • Gil

                    So if you’ve written 5 books on the subject, then why are you here debating me?

                    • Sammy Girl

                      Wh..what? I dont get it. Why does me writing books mean i cant enter into a debate with you?

                      As a matter of fact I only surfed onto this blog while doing research for an article. So why am i not allowed to engage in discourse with you?

                    • Gil

                      If you’ve written 5 books on the subject, then 1 should be able to declare themselves a subject matter expert correct?

                      If so…then how come you are not out having intellectual debates with the likes of Tariq, Umar, & Tommy being that they are actually known (I’m not) & they have way bigger followings than I currently have AND they are making money off of what you say is running rampant amongst black men?

                      I don’t mind the discourse here…but in trying to figure out what is the end game with you?

                    • Sammy Girl

                      So what you’re saying is you are not an expert on the subject with which you are talking about.

                      So now you are saying I am an expert but you are admitting you are not an expert. Which means you agree that your arguments against the reality of black women being oppressed by black men are INVALID. Since im a big bully who is an expert in this discussion (p.s. me being a black woman in america in itself pretty much qualifys me as knowing more on the subject then you do) and im arguing with YOU whose claiming ignorance now.

                      Gotcha! Nice to know you agree you dont know what you are talking about. I was mately trying to educate you and now your calling me a bully for trying to educate you. That is some hellified tap dancing. Lol.

                      For the record i have argued with Tommy Sotomayor and probably hundreds of black men online correcting them when they try to control black women.

                      As far as i know ive had no contact with Tyriq Nasheed or Umar Johnson directly but have argued with the simple minded black people who follow them, if that makes any difference.

                    • Gil

                      At this point in saying whatever it is you believe me to be saying. 😶

  • Gil

    Everything you just typed translates into:

    “I’m just another random angry black woman (alleged) looking for somebody to sympathize with me on the internet b/c nobody wants to read my books.”

    Maybe Talib will read them & acknowledge you…maybe.

    • Sammy Girl

      Honey, you blog on the INTERNET so you’re going to have to get off whatever high horse you trying to climb on, fr fr! ROFL!

      I’m the second commenter in two months on this post. And you know this post should be getting crazy traffic with a ton of black women ready to lay into you.

      You click baited the hell out of this blog and got two whole comments for it. So you need to calm down and learn the chain of command when it comes to writers.
      A low traffic blogger is all the way at the bottom of that chain, sorry to tell you! Why would you even attack my black studies books which you don’t even know the title of? Not only is it childish but im right here on your blog where i can critique the shit out of it and know what im talking about.

      But I didn’t even want to go there with you because attacking your writing/blog rather then attacking your ideas is beneth me. But you seriously be setting me up right there to throw your ass around. You ain’t getting no hits on this blog, so please stop trying to talk like you the Huffington post or some shit.

      They say when a debater starts with character attacks it means he’s LOST and he knows he LOST. So you’re just making yourself look bad, like you have no real argument to make.

      Speaking of which, if you can get out of your feelings for a minute, do you even remember what the original discussion was about? If you do maybe you should focus more on proving your point. Also, something us writers tend to do is called “research”.

      So maybe if you did some research before you would know that SYSTEMATIC OPPRESSION takes many forms, not just legal/instituionalized oppression.

      I already posted the list of all the different types of SYSTEMS. Social systems are definately on that list. Systematic oppression, indeed, does include and is actually mostly about SOCIAL SYSTEMS!

      Read this article about a Muslim girl and her incidents with systematic oppression. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/humera-lodhi/a-muslim-at-mizzou-does-s_b_8539080.html

      Not in any one of those incidents she is talking about was any “laws” in place to keep her and her fellow muslims down. She’s talking about people saying and doing hateful and ignorant stuff to her.

      These are social attacks and black men socially attack black women in all the same ways I read about this woman being attacked.

      Domestic Violence like @feministaJones described is also part of that system of oppression. LOL. No dear, black men are not sitting their with their timex making sure they space out murdering black women every 18 hours. Just like white lynch mobs didn’t space lynching out every 3 days.

      But you can find more then enough evidence of black men attacking black women, cheering for when they get attacked by whites, trying to prevent black women from going to school either by intimidation, shame (shaming “educated” black women or “independant” black women) or even physical violence.

      Then they try to demean black women in public, from attacking our hair, our parenting, our choices in who we date (“You all date thugs!”, “Black women in interracial relationship are bed wenches!”, “Black women only want ballers!” and other such stupidity). OH! And trying to slap the “angry black women label” on us when ever we say something you don’t like. So, you are part of the problem and you know that. I don’t need to hear that “i don’t know any guys like that”. Seems like you yourself are that guy.

      BTW, it’s not your business if im angry or not. It’s your business if im right or not and even you know that I am right! You don’t even seem to understand what systematic oppression is, you think it means laws. The constritution hasnt had any racist laws in decades, but we have systematic oppression from whites even to this day!

      Black men like Umar Johnson, Tommy Sotomayor, Tariq Nasheed and the multitude of black men like them are even bigger parts of that systematic oppression. They literally make money off of disrespecting black women and teaching other men of various races how to disrespect black women as well.

      I with my books and Talib Kwali with his post are challenging and fighting these evil bastards the best way we each know how. YOU are simply in your feelings about the whole thing because you don’t want anyone to say anything bad about black men. But if you are part of the SYSTEM brother, and not fighting that system then you are part of the problem.

      You are trying to act like black mens system of oppression doesn’t exist. The devils greatest trick is convincing the world he doesn’t exist!

      This ain’t a game, this is black womens lives we are dealing with. We ain’t got time for your hurt feelings or deflection tactics.

      You stuck a gigantic, smelly, timberland in your damn mouth trying to call all the people who notice this systematic oppression and trying to defeat it liars. You are the liar who was acting like you don’t see the great danger black women are in just to protect your own EGO.

      The only good thing you could do is go apologize to Talib Kwali, at least. Even if you knew what the definateiobn of systematic oppression was (you don’t!) that was extremely pig head and disrespectful of to act like he needs you to correct his message. He too actually gets paid to write. Please respect the chain of command, boo-boo! Low traffic Blogger is alllllllll the way at the bottom of that chain. Sorry to hurt your feelings but you need to hear the truth.

      Then the next thing a MATURE WRITER or MATURE PERSON would do is go research what systematic oppression actually is and then go listen to some black women tell you about it(or black men who my have witnessed it themselves and are strong enough internally to call it out).

      You either grow up, learn to listen to black women and not just the chatter in your own head.

      Or you can loose your shit everytime someone challenges this systematic oppression of black women.

      I promise you will be loosing your shit a lot these coming days because this movement just starting to spark off and you know it’s going to be big!

      • Gil

        But is anybody reading your books & are you actually making any type of impact?

        I’m inclined to think not. Sooo…here we are.

  • WhoKnows3000

    “Rap culture”

    Too simplistic. Everyone knows that black society is a highly feminized one. That’s because black men are so heavily institutionalized that black boys largely grow up around women. Hip Hop reflects that. You got psychologically wounded black men…reactionary sure but a lot to do with black women.

    One thing I remembered growing up in a hopeless black neighborhood where most I grew up with are ether homeless, impoverished, in jail or dead, is how black women consistently drove down the egos of black males. I remembered black female teachers being extremely condescending, more likely to go zero tolerance on you when questioning indoctrination. The same went for those in the child protective services, the police and even in the public sector. Mind you, I am for big government of Soviet proportion despite some modest private holdings.

    Continuing on, black women love to knock black men and if we’re honest, female spaces are terrible. They flock, complain and it’s not like areas are interrogated there. While you may see white girls from the burbs hanging out with black males, those female spaces don’t even invite gay men.

    Now add black girls calling black boys ugly, using older boys to bully male peers. Black male-to-male violence involving women were beyond common. Hip Hop so obviously reflects this…Jay Z was called ugly by girls…Nas rationalizes the behavior and expects men to just man it. Realistically, Nas keeps such opinions outside the hood because that kind of reactionary thinking drives male violence.

    PS ( not to you): Gender gap differences disappear when controlling for occupation and work hours. Solution here is free child care and parental leave for BOTH parents.

    Simplistic. Everyone knows that black society is a highly feminized one. That’s because black men are so heavily institutionalized that black boys largely grow up around women. Hip Hop reflects that. You got psychologically wounded black men…reactionary sure but a lot to do with black women.

    One thing I remembered growing up in a hopeless black neighborhood where most I grew up with are ether homeless, impoverished, in jail or dead, is how black women consistently drove down the egos of black males. I remembered black female teachers being extremely condescending, more likely to go zero tolerance on you when questioning indoctrination. The same went for those in the child protective services, the police and even in the public sector. Mind you, I am for big government of Soviet proportion despite some modest private holdings.

    Continuing on, black women love to knock black men and if we’re honest, female spaces are terrible. They flock, complain and it’s not like areas are interrogated there. While you may see white girls from the burbs hanging out with black males, those female spaces don’t even invite gay men.

    Now add black girls calling black boys ugly, using older boys to bully male peers. Black male-to-male violence involving women were beyond common. Hip Hop so obviously reflects this…Jay Z was called ugly by girls…Nas rationalizes the behavior and expects men to just man it. Realistically, Nas keeps such opinions outside the hood because that kind of reactionary thinking drives male violence.

    PS ( not to you): Gender gap differences disappear when controlling for occupation and work hours. Solution here is free child care and parental leave for BOTH parents.

    PPS: I remembered black women openly making fun of one’s complexions, one’s build, lips, height and the rest. While black men talk shit to appear mentally steady, most had pretty lax standards. Honestly, fuck Kweli’s mangina ass and I am pretty sure it’s black men largely dying on the street. Sure it involves other black men, but why does that matter? I never asked for violent thugs to target me for no reason, didn’t ask to be sticked up but fortunately I didn’t go Hamlet on their asses.

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